Comments on: 10 things I learned at the Irish Web 2.0 event http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/dublin/2006/02/23/10-things-i-learned-at-the-irish-web-20-event/ People, Technology, Business and Innovation Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:01:14 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Technology in plain English » Web2Ireland - almost Mainstream http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/dublin/2006/02/23/10-things-i-learned-at-the-irish-web-20-event/comment-page-1/#comment-682 Technology in plain English » Web2Ireland - almost Mainstream Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:16:05 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/?p=167#comment-682 [...] Prize for one of the better (and concise) definitions of Web 2.0 goes to Kevin Sherry of Enterprise Ireland: Web 2.0 is the Second Wave of Internet Business Activity. Having said that , my view is Web 2.0 is almost , but not quite , going mainstream (in Ireland at least). Judging by the people I met (more below) and the dress standards I would judge the audience as 1/3rd Business-VC (suit and tie) 1/3rd Techie (Jeans and T-Shirt) and 1/3rd Professional Technologist (Suit but no tie). This contrasts with the last Web 2.0 event , where the audience was almost exclusively techie, despite dual business and technology marketing. [...] [...] Prize for one of the better (and concise) definitions of Web 2.0 goes to Kevin Sherry of Enterprise Ireland: Web 2.0 is the Second Wave of Internet Business Activity. Having said that , my view is Web 2.0 is almost , but not quite , going mainstream (in Ireland at least). Judging by the people I met (more below) and the dress standards I would judge the audience as 1/3rd Business-VC (suit and tie) 1/3rd Techie (Jeans and T-Shirt) and 1/3rd Professional Technologist (Suit but no tie). This contrasts with the last Web 2.0 event , where the audience was almost exclusively techie, despite dual business and technology marketing. [...]

]]> By: Technology in plain English » Welcome to to the blogosphere , IIA! http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/dublin/2006/02/23/10-things-i-learned-at-the-irish-web-20-event/comment-page-1/#comment-651 Technology in plain English » Welcome to to the blogosphere , IIA! Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:39:07 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/?p=167#comment-651 [...] Fair play to Fergal O’Byrne - 3 months ago at the IIA Web 2.0 Event that we presented at, he was honest enough to admit his ignorance of blogs. Now a short time later , he’s turned things around and is blogging himself. Congrats! [...] [...] Fair play to Fergal O’Byrne – 3 months ago at the IIA Web 2.0 Event that we presented at, he was honest enough to admit his ignorance of blogs. Now a short time later , he’s turned things around and is blogging himself. Congrats! [...]

]]> By: Andrew Penrose http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/dublin/2006/02/23/10-things-i-learned-at-the-irish-web-20-event/comment-page-1/#comment-529 Andrew Penrose Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:58:44 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/?p=167#comment-529 Since you failed on the link..I'll do it myself. ;-) <a href="www.eats.ie" title="Online Food Ordering made easy" rel="nofollow">www.eats.ie</a> Since you failed on the link..I’ll do it myself. ;-)

http://www.eats.ie

]]> By: Technology in plain English » Online Food Ordering in Dublin , Ireland with Eats.ie http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/dublin/2006/02/23/10-things-i-learned-at-the-irish-web-20-event/comment-page-1/#comment-521 Technology in plain English » Online Food Ordering in Dublin , Ireland with Eats.ie Thu, 06 Apr 2006 10:48:14 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/?p=167#comment-521 [...] Andrew Penrose (him of online Ordering Eats.ie) has threatened me with on overdose of Cold Pizza if I didn’t link to his site on this blogpost about the Web 2.0 presentation that we did.. [...] [...] Andrew Penrose (him of online Ordering Eats.ie) has threatened me with on overdose of Cold Pizza if I didn’t link to his site on this blogpost about the Web 2.0 presentation that we did.. [...]

]]> By: Bond http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/dublin/2006/02/23/10-things-i-learned-at-the-irish-web-20-event/comment-page-1/#comment-440 Bond Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:56:32 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/?p=167#comment-440 WEB 2.0 site www.areaface.com WEB 2.0 site
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]]> By: Web 2.0 in Ireland » 10 things I learned at the Irish Web 2.0 event http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/dublin/2006/02/23/10-things-i-learned-at-the-irish-web-20-event/comment-page-1/#comment-297 Web 2.0 in Ireland » 10 things I learned at the Irish Web 2.0 event Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:26:04 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/?p=167#comment-297 [...] Technology in plain English » 10 things I learned at the Irish Web 2.0 event [...] [...] Technology in plain English » 10 things I learned at the Irish Web 2.0 event [...]

]]> By: Paul Browne http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/dublin/2006/02/23/10-things-i-learned-at-the-irish-web-20-event/comment-page-1/#comment-295 Paul Browne Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:46:12 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/?p=167#comment-295 Walter, Maybe I picked up on that comment wrong. It's hard to take exact notes when you're presenting at the same time! I will agree that the Enterprise space , being more conservative, is about 12 months behind. This is not a bad thing, as like yourself, we've only used Ajax where the client can see the benefit (more responsive user interface). They don't care how 'cool' something is, just that it does the job. An interesting analogy is that systems *within* companies are becoming more and more like mashups - various system , different technologies, currently stuck together with excel spreadsheets and shell scripts. Think what XML interfaces could do here ... Paul Walter,

Maybe I picked up on that comment wrong. It’s hard to take exact notes when you’re presenting at the same time!

I will agree that the Enterprise space , being more conservative, is about 12 months behind. This is not a bad thing, as like yourself, we’ve only used Ajax where the client can see the benefit (more responsive user interface). They don’t care how ‘cool’ something is, just that it does the job.

An interesting analogy is that systems *within* companies are becoming more and more like mashups – various system , different technologies, currently stuck together with excel spreadsheets and shell scripts. Think what XML interfaces could do here …

Paul

]]> By: Walter http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/dublin/2006/02/23/10-things-i-learned-at-the-irish-web-20-event/comment-page-1/#comment-294 Walter Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:06:28 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/?p=167#comment-294 Hi Paul, It was a great event. Attendees at the london summit weren't 'hostile' to enterprise development - it just wasn't discussed. Buyers of enterprise software work on different timescales to the current web2 folks. The pace of innovation in this space is too fast for enterprise development. No doubt AJAX will trickle into the enterprise in the coming months. We have been using it subtly in enterprise J2EE-based projects for the past year. Framework-laden Enterprise software is lagging right now because the frameworks haven't caught up yet. Hi Paul,

It was a great event. Attendees at the london summit weren’t ‘hostile’ to enterprise development – it just wasn’t discussed. Buyers of enterprise software work on different timescales to the current web2 folks. The pace of innovation in this space is too fast for enterprise development. No doubt AJAX will trickle into the enterprise in the coming months. We have been using it subtly in enterprise J2EE-based projects for the past year. Framework-laden Enterprise software is lagging right now because the frameworks haven’t caught up yet.

]]> By: Stephen Downey http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/dublin/2006/02/23/10-things-i-learned-at-the-irish-web-20-event/comment-page-1/#comment-291 Stephen Downey Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:51:54 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/?p=167#comment-291 Hi Paul, Just wanted to say thank you for the talk on Tuesday night. It seems that there could be a big Web 2.0 following in Ireland and the IIA/IrishDev seem to be the right forum to bring everyone together. As you say, Web 2.0 is not just about the developers; it is also about getting businesses involved. When they realise the potential Web 2.0 offers them, this is (Hopefully!) where the revenue streams might start emerging. Regards Stephen (I was the guy that asked the last question about ethics in Web 2.0) Hi Paul,
Just wanted to say thank you for the talk on Tuesday night.
It seems that there could be a big Web 2.0 following in Ireland and the IIA/IrishDev seem to be the right forum to bring everyone together.
As you say, Web 2.0 is not just about the developers; it is also about getting businesses involved. When they realise the potential Web 2.0 offers them, this is (Hopefully!) where the revenue streams might start emerging.

Regards
Stephen
(I was the guy that asked the last question about ethics in Web 2.0)

]]> By: Paul Browne http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/dublin/2006/02/23/10-things-i-learned-at-the-irish-web-20-event/comment-page-1/#comment-290 Paul Browne Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:38:07 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/?p=167#comment-290 OK, Johnny Cash is probably not the best example , I've only recently got into his music, so I will admit my ignorance on this point! Regarding the dual speaker format, it felt at times like 'who's line is it anyway?'. I knew Fergal was going to hand over to me (sometime), but as to exactly when and how .... you found out about the same time as I did :-) OK, Johnny Cash is probably not the best example , I’ve only recently got into his music, so I will admit my ignorance on this point!

Regarding the dual speaker format, it felt at times like ‘who’s line is it anyway?’. I knew Fergal was going to hand over to me (sometime), but as to exactly when and how …. you found out about the same time as I did :-)

]]> By: Kieran Lynam http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/dublin/2006/02/23/10-things-i-learned-at-the-irish-web-20-event/comment-page-1/#comment-289 Kieran Lynam Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:31:29 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/?p=167#comment-289 :) I really liked the dual-speaker format... plus, I found the material informative and the delivery entertaining! The more interactive nature of the presentation was intersting too... :)

I really liked the dual-speaker format… plus, I found the material informative and the delivery entertaining! The more interactive nature of the presentation was intersting too…

]]> By: dove http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/dublin/2006/02/23/10-things-i-learned-at-the-irish-web-20-event/comment-page-1/#comment-288 dove Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:08:40 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/?p=167#comment-288 good article Paul, a small point of order. it would have been difficult any time over the last 30 years to find a record store in ireland that didn't have several johnny cash albums!! (yes, i'm a fan) Also, i don't know if this really illustrates the long tail farther than it being a minority preference. A forum dedicated to Johnny Cash would be long tail, not Johnny Cash himself, no? Looking for a better musical reference? Try Nick Drake, never sold in the eighties and was a marginal big hit in the nineties despite dying in the seventies. good article Paul,
a small point of order.
it would have been difficult any time over the last 30 years to find a record store in ireland that didn’t have several johnny cash albums!! (yes, i’m a fan)
Also, i don’t know if this really illustrates the long tail farther than it being a minority preference. A forum dedicated to Johnny Cash would be long tail, not Johnny Cash himself, no?
Looking for a better musical reference? Try Nick Drake, never sold in the eighties and was a marginal big hit in the nineties despite dying in the seventies.

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