Comments on: 500 Irish Bloggers – Will the Irish Blogosphere be banned by Technorati? http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/ireland/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/ People, Technology, Business and Innovation Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:01:14 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: M Buckley http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/ireland/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/comment-page-1/#comment-27104 M Buckley Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:27:00 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/links/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/#comment-27104 I've found a very helpful website, Kiwirant, where technology matters and indexing are discussed by experts. You may find it interesting. I’ve found a very helpful website, Kiwirant, where technology matters and indexing are discussed by experts. You may find it interesting.

]]> By: Antia http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/ireland/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/comment-page-1/#comment-18961 Antia Mon, 19 Feb 2007 04:45:58 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/links/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/#comment-18961 They won't be banned, but I'd be careful about posting so many links in one post ... it's a good way to get temporarily throttled by Google (unless you don't get many hits from Google, in which case it probably doesn't matter much to you). BTW - nice blog! Just stumbled on it while looking for Feedburner icons. They won’t be banned, but I’d be careful about posting so many links in one post … it’s a good way to get temporarily throttled by Google (unless you don’t get many hits from Google, in which case it probably doesn’t matter much to you).

BTW – nice blog! Just stumbled on it while looking for Feedburner icons.

]]> By: Thomas Holmes http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/ireland/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/comment-page-1/#comment-17484 Thomas Holmes Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:19:31 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/links/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/#comment-17484 Yeah I accept that to some degree. But number of links on a page is basic stuff. Yeah I accept that to some degree. But number of links on a page is basic stuff.

]]> By: admin http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/ireland/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/comment-page-1/#comment-17472 admin Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:20:03 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/links/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/#comment-17472 Thomas, Like they say on their own blog , Technorati is a startup with only 40 people, so I wouldn't expect them to be of a Google level of quality when it comes to the algorithms. Paul Thomas,

Like they say on their own blog , Technorati is a startup with only 40 people, so I wouldn’t expect them to be of a Google level of quality when it comes to the algorithms.

Paul

]]> By: Thomas Holmes http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/ireland/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/comment-page-1/#comment-17467 Thomas Holmes Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:41:19 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/links/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/#comment-17467 It's ridiculous if Technorati can be gamed as easily as that! Most search engines take into account how many links there are on a page. With 2000+ links on one page there isn't much chance of getting click-throughs. And therefore the value of such a link is pretty darn low. Certainly this has been the case for me. I'm one of the 2000 bloggers. I've seen the links building up day by day. But apart from a click or two from the original site, I haven't had any click-throughs. Maybe it's my photo. Not female and not sexy enough! :-) Personally I thought it was quite a good idea though. The links are all related - they are all bloggers. I like the idea of creating the book cover with the images too. But come on technorati, get with the program! It’s ridiculous if Technorati can be gamed as easily as that!

Most search engines take into account how many links there are on a page. With 2000+ links on one page there isn’t much chance of getting click-throughs. And therefore the value of such a link is pretty darn low.

Certainly this has been the case for me. I’m one of the 2000 bloggers. I’ve seen the links building up day by day. But apart from a click or two from the original site, I haven’t had any click-throughs.

Maybe it’s my photo. Not female and not sexy enough! :-)

Personally I thought it was quite a good idea though. The links are all related – they are all bloggers. I like the idea of creating the book cover with the images too.

But come on technorati, get with the program!

]]> By: Richard Hearne http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/ireland/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/comment-page-1/#comment-17420 Richard Hearne Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:25:45 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/links/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/#comment-17420 Donncha - if you were under a 30/60/90 day penalty your site would actually be pulled from the index. There are other penalties, and basically if you don't come back #1 for the search 'yourdomain.com' (no www) you should be worried. Donncha – if you were under a 30/60/90 day penalty your site would actually be pulled from the index.

There are other penalties, and basically if you don’t come back #1 for the search ‘yourdomain.com’ (no www) you should be worried.

]]> By: Donncha O Caoimh http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/ireland/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/comment-page-1/#comment-17251 Donncha O Caoimh Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:07:06 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/links/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/#comment-17251 Richard - I'm confused, shouldn't Google return hits from my blog using the site: operator anyway? Doing a similar search using site:blacknight.ie brings up the blacknight.ie site only.. I should have mentioned, it's Technorati who have banned or filtered all the default WP install links.. Sorry. I must ask Matt about that, he can probably find out a bit more about it. Richard – I’m confused, shouldn’t Google return hits from my blog using the site: operator anyway? Doing a similar search using site:blacknight.ie brings up the blacknight.ie site only..

I should have mentioned, it’s Technorati who have banned or filtered all the default WP install links.. Sorry. I must ask Matt about that, he can probably find out a bit more about it.

]]> By: Richard Hearne http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/ireland/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/comment-page-1/#comment-17239 Richard Hearne Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:21:47 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/links/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/#comment-17239 @Donncha - that's fairly normal for Google. They often turn off the juice from very obvious sites like Wordpress default install. BTW you're not banned or filtered. Just not receiving any benefit from the default links. Try searching Google with either the 'site:ocaoimh.ie' operator or try searching for 'ocaoimh.ie' (both without the quotes). You come back #1 for a search on your domain, which is a dead giveaway for a ban/penalty. @Paul - I'm not sure whether Technorati filter manually. It would all boil down to a the concept of intent - were the linking sites trying to affect the rankings? In this case definitely not. Even if it was flagged, as soon as someone checks the links they'll see the reason. *fingers crossed* (my technorati rank has jumped about 30000 places in the last week or two :mrgreen:) @Donncha – that’s fairly normal for Google. They often turn off the juice from very obvious sites like Wordpress default install. BTW you’re not banned or filtered. Just not receiving any benefit from the default links. Try searching Google with either the ’site:ocaoimh.ie’ operator or try searching for ‘ocaoimh.ie’ (both without the quotes). You come back #1 for a search on your domain, which is a dead giveaway for a ban/penalty.

@Paul – I’m not sure whether Technorati filter manually. It would all boil down to a the concept of intent – were the linking sites trying to affect the rankings? In this case definitely not. Even if it was flagged, as soon as someone checks the links they’ll see the reason. *fingers crossed* (my technorati rank has jumped about 30000 places in the last week or two :mrgreen: )

]]> By: admin http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/ireland/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/comment-page-1/#comment-17235 admin Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:11:49 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/links/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/#comment-17235 Donncha: Until now I was thinking that it was a masterstroke of SEO to get involved with Wordpress :-) Richard: Don't know whether to be disappointed or relieved. I'm sure Google will handle it well, but what about Technorati? Was reading between the lines about the 2000 bloggers story, and I'm not sure how sophisticated their rating mechanism is. There again, I don't think they are as important as they were 12 months back (or could just wishful thinking, due to the problems I've had with them). Ken: I had intended to do a version of this around our pints competition, but it seemed quite lame compared to Richards / Eoghans offers. Me, I'm off to look at another 20 blogs .... Paul Donncha: Until now I was thinking that it was a masterstroke of SEO to get involved with Wordpress :-)

Richard: Don’t know whether to be disappointed or relieved. I’m sure Google will handle it well, but what about Technorati? Was reading between the lines about the 2000 bloggers story, and I’m not sure how sophisticated their rating mechanism is. There again, I don’t think they are as important as they were 12 months back (or could just wishful thinking, due to the problems I’ve had with them).

Ken: I had intended to do a version of this around our pints competition, but it seemed quite lame compared to Richards / Eoghans offers.

Me, I’m off to look at another 20 blogs ….

Paul

]]> By: Richard Hearne http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/ireland/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/comment-page-1/#comment-17228 Richard Hearne Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:45:36 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/links/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/#comment-17228 Ken Very unlikely to have much affect. the fact that the page contains 500 links means that the pagerank will be divided between all of those links. An if all 500 sites published the links we would be flagged for sure. Rgds Richard Ken

Very unlikely to have much affect. the fact that the page contains 500 links means that the pagerank will be divided between all of those links.

An if all 500 sites published the links we would be flagged for sure.

Rgds
Richard

]]> By: Ken McGuire http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/ireland/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/comment-page-1/#comment-17223 Ken McGuire Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:33:05 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/links/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/#comment-17223 Interesting to see if it has a positive effect on the ole Google Pagerank on the next refresh... Interesting to see if it has a positive effect on the ole Google Pagerank on the next refresh…

]]> By: Richard Hearne http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/ireland/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/comment-page-1/#comment-17196 Richard Hearne Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:20:46 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/links/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/#comment-17196 I can tell you that if everyone does publish the exact same list we will soon look like a link farm. Whether justified or not, it would give the wrong signal to the SEs. I doubt it would result in any penalty, but it wont help either. I can tell you that if everyone does publish the exact same list we will soon look like a link farm. Whether justified or not, it would give the wrong signal to the SEs. I doubt it would result in any penalty, but it wont help either.

]]> By: Donncha O Caoimh http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/location/ireland/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/comment-page-1/#comment-17193 Donncha O Caoimh Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:05:09 +0000 http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/links/2007/02/14/500-irish-bloggers-will-the-irish-blogosphere-be-banned-by-technorati/#comment-17193 I doubt they'll be banned, and in my case, ocaoimh.ie is already banned/filtered, and inphotos.org will be soon once they notice it's a default link in the new WP! I doubt they’ll be banned, and in my case, ocaoimh.ie is already banned/filtered, and inphotos.org will be soon once they notice it’s a default link in the new WP!

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