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	<title>Comments on: Open Java changes everything</title>
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		<title>By: Technology and People - Sugar CRM lands in Dublin (Irish Times Jobs)</title>
		<link>http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/technology/java/2006/11/24/open-java-changes-everything/#comment-99045</link>
		<dc:creator>Technology and People - Sugar CRM lands in Dublin (Irish Times Jobs)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We&#8217;re big fans of Sugar CRM, and have recommended it to clients in the past. It does Customer Relationship Management (CRM) - basically the numbers you have in your mobile, but at a corporate rather than an individual level. We proposed integrating it with a (Java Based) billing system - we didn&#8217;t want to have to build (yet another) contact management system, as the value add was integration. Getting PHP (the web scripting language that Sugar is written in) to work with Java is getting easier but not straightforward. But hey, that&#8217;s what we do. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We&#8217;re big fans of Sugar CRM, and have recommended it to clients in the past. It does Customer Relationship Management (CRM) - basically the numbers you have in your mobile, but at a corporate rather than an individual level. We proposed integrating it with a (Java Based) billing system - we didn&#8217;t want to have to build (yet another) contact management system, as the value add was integration. Getting PHP (the web scripting language that Sugar is written in) to work with Java is getting easier but not straightforward. But hey, that&#8217;s what we do. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jegb</title>
		<link>http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/technology/java/2006/11/24/open-java-changes-everything/#comment-55696</link>
		<dc:creator>Jegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 08:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, Suns approach and attitude to competitors on the FOSS community is really bad PR, Apache Harmony is having troubles with Sun to get access to the JCK.

Sun's terms and conditions in Java.net are not very interesting either. Sun is not a non-for-profit, why bother contributing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, Suns approach and attitude to competitors on the FOSS community is really bad PR, Apache Harmony is having troubles with Sun to get access to the JCK.</p>
<p>Sun&#8217;s terms and conditions in Java.net are not very interesting either. Sun is not a non-for-profit, why bother contributing?</p>
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		<title>By: Dear Bruce Eckel : Hybrid Java, Google Web Toolkit and Adobe Flex - Technology in plain English - Dublin Ireland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dear Bruce Eckel : Hybrid Java, Google Web Toolkit and Adobe Flex - Technology in plain English - Dublin Ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yes Hybridizing open source Java is the starting point for the solution. Unfortunately we&#8217;ve a long way to go yet, and Flex is perhaps only inspiration along the way. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yes Hybridizing open source Java is the starting point for the solution. Unfortunately we&#8217;ve a long way to go yet, and Flex is perhaps only inspiration along the way. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Technology in plain English &#187; 15 seconds of fame on the Serverside.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Technology in plain English &#187; 15 seconds of fame on the Serverside.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update: A copy of the original post can be found here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Update: A copy of the original post can be found here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/technology/java/2006/11/24/open-java-changes-everything/#comment-2538</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 20:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jakub,

I read something on &lt;a href="http://www.infoq.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;InfoQ&lt;/a&gt; about JRuby being included in Sun's Glassfish Java Application Server ...

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jakub,</p>
<p>I read something on <a href="http://www.infoq.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.infoq.com');" rel="nofollow">InfoQ</a> about JRuby being included in Sun&#8217;s Glassfish Java Application Server &#8230;</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Jakub Korab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jakub Korab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 15:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The move to a GPL licence also means that the Java Runtime can now be distributed freely within Linux distributions. Now, that may not seem like a big deal, but it means that you now have a full application development stack out of the box free when you install a Linux box. An open JVM, an open application server (JBoss/Geronimo/Glassfish), and an open IDE (Netbeans/Eclipse). 

Include Groovy/Grails support and you have a stack to rival LAMP that becomes accessible to a much wider base of developers. Off the bat, I'd say that Java hosting could become a lot cheaper as a result of the new demand. 

I'd love to see what the impact will be on the PHP and RoR communities. How do you compete for mindshare with a free, rapid, structured web development stack for the masses that you can easily deploy? This can only be a good move.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The move to a GPL licence also means that the Java Runtime can now be distributed freely within Linux distributions. Now, that may not seem like a big deal, but it means that you now have a full application development stack out of the box free when you install a Linux box. An open JVM, an open application server (JBoss/Geronimo/Glassfish), and an open IDE (Netbeans/Eclipse). </p>
<p>Include Groovy/Grails support and you have a stack to rival LAMP that becomes accessible to a much wider base of developers. Off the bat, I&#8217;d say that Java hosting could become a lot cheaper as a result of the new demand. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see what the impact will be on the PHP and RoR communities. How do you compete for mindshare with a free, rapid, structured web development stack for the masses that you can easily deploy? This can only be a good move.</p>
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